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Subject: Re: And further to digitising... Engarde Hopper /laff
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Pixie <Pixie@AnnWheatley.com.invalid>wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:27:35 +1000, Pixie
><Pixie@AnnWheatley.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>Further to Hopper's offering --
>
>>OTOH..
>>I am kinda torn between being keen to see the group
>>flourish and entertaining those who would demand of
>>others free time in doing cottage work for commercial
>>gain. Hopefully the group is mature enough to avoid the
>>latter.
>>
>I was hoping that by encouraging the masses to have a crack at their
>own digitising, there would be less requests and just more "doing"
>from the people that are currently "asking".
>Wishing and fishing on my behalf??
>
Not entirely.
There are those who will understand
"give a man the rod and he shall catch his own fish".
Then there are others who will find the technology
simply exhausts them in acquiring the skill.
Also... remember.. digitisers "do it" because they want
to.
One has to keep them happy too.
A delicate balance?
I reckon even Kofi Annan, as another retired "old
coot", wouldn't want the job<g>
.. and btw.. you are leaving out "Sammy" if you wish to
challenge _all_ digitisers here in ABCP.
/chuckle
>Instead of turning you and Herb into digitising slaves, perhaps those
>cottage workers could be encouraged to do their own work.
>
Agreed... but the thrust has to be in educating a mix.
Anything else --- in relying only on "auto-digi" and
editing of product -- will simply produce results like
this:
http://ickes.us/embrodiery.aspx
.. hardly even seemingly passable :-0
>That was what I was hoping for.
>Teaching ppl what to ask for, thereby empowering them with the first
>points of digitising (knowing what is wanted) can only inspire them to
>try themselves?? No?
>
For those that wish to? Sure.
Many may however simply wish to sew something digitised
occasionally. This is where ABCP can help.
What is then needed is for the project requested to be
fully described by the requestor.
Something I think we (digitisers) are all trying to
say/put, albeit overly 'politely' :-<
>If nothing else, get them to realise just how difficult some of the
>requests really are.
>
Many I have seen require a commercial artist.
The problem then is what does one "rebuild" in an image
and still meet the expectations of the requestor?
One has to run through a "is this what you want to see"
type scenario.
With the limited feedback so far experienced -- using
that method -- only frustration and wasted time has
been the result. For both parties no doubt.
>You would view a posted attempt "how can I improve this??" with more
>enthusiasm than a demand for the impossible from someone who doesn't
>understand the complexity of what they have asked for.
>
Exactly.. and what has just recently been given example
of.. a number of times.
Note the feedback on those attempts ;-/
Again thanks for the challenge<g>
Your other effort I shall address in due course.. time
is of the essence this morning.
A project to get cracking on :-)
cYa
--
hopper
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